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Offline up2ng

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Streaming Tournament for Everyone?
« on: June 05, 2013, 10:38:09 AM »
Just throwing an idea out there, although I don't want to be the one to try to organize it -- some of you guys are doing an excellent job at that already.  I've seen the popularity of the Wildcard Rematch Tournaments and was curious if someone might organize a streaming tournament event that includes everyone?

The obvious way to handle it to make it the most fair is to incorporate some sort of handicapping system.  For example, I would propose a system which sets a baseline score at 900,000 points and then everyone whose top score (according to the DKF scoreboard?) is higher than that is handicapped at, say, 80% of the difference between their high score and 900k.

For example, a player with a Personal Best of 850,000 points would enter the tournament with a handicap of "0".  Another player with a Personal Best of 1,100,000 points would enter the tournament with a handicap of 0.8 * (1,100,000 - 900,000) = "-160,000".  So, if the first player has the game of his life and scores 1,000,000 points during the tournament, the second player would have to score 1,160,000 points to beat him.

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Re: Streaming Tournament for Everyone?
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2013, 10:50:59 AM »
Its funny you brought this up because I was just coming to talk about the new KO3 Wildcard rules that were just posted.

But, It would be cool to be allowed to play in some of these tournament that are going on all yea. We like to compete too :). For the top 12 in the Kong Off, we've been held out of these other tournaments throughout the year. But, even the top 12 have good days and bad days, so someone not in the top 12 could win it also on any given weekend.

Like Dean said, I'm not much of an event organizer either, but it would be cool to have some event that included everyone.

Well, either way, Kong Off 3 dedicated players are going to have to start hyping Kong Off 3 main event. There hasn't been much talk about KO3 main event. Wildcard is going to be stealing the show!  ;)
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Re: Streaming Tournament for Everyone?
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2013, 12:42:36 PM »
I like this idea! The Kong Off is obviously a huge main event for the DK community but I think having other tournaments, especially ones that are focused around the DKF, would be great. It would be easier for everyone to be involved, at least. Maybe have a DK Triple Crown competition with DK, DKJR, and DK3? A crap DK tourney with all the bootlegs and knock-offs? Throw D2K in there somewhere?

It might be hard to organize if there is a WCR every other month, but I'm sure it could be worked out.  :D
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Re: Streaming Tournament for Everyone?
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2013, 01:46:18 PM »
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we've been held out of these other tournaments throughout the year

The No Hammer tournament was open to everyone
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Re: Streaming Tournament for Everyone?
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2013, 02:34:44 PM »
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we've been held out of these other tournaments throughout the year

The No Hammer tournament was open to everyone

I was referring to the wildcard tournaments.

No Hammer was cool, but that just a variation only certain players try.
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Re: Streaming Tournament for Everyone?
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2013, 08:32:09 PM »
Totally open to it. I would be happy to organize something like this but want to make sure that Eric and John are cool and onboard. I still think that if you were in the #9-#12 position you should play in the tournies just in case one of the #1-#9 qualifies for a dedicated machine. You should have a fair chance to post a score versus just being shutout since anyone can try for the Top 12. Play during the time and say "I got 945k - Round 1, etc etc and then you have the potential to play versus having to just try on Friday to make it to the next round. Anything can happen on any given weekend! :D

Also handicapping is not a horrible bad idea and would give EVERYONE a shot at it. Happens in bowling.

Basically goes like this.

Take your top score (It would be better to go top 5 scores but most don't know them). That is your "Handicap score".

This in turn is based on 80% of 900000. So my 768000 score would now get a handicap of 105600 points (132000 *.8) - I get to add this total to any score I post so a 900,000 score would be 1,005,600.

This also gives the 200000 player a real shot as well since they get 560,000 points to add to their score (700000 *.8 = 560,000) - They get a 400000 point game they now have 960,000 score.

I'm a little poor on prize money right now since I got A/C issues but I would offer up something like an Atari 2600 and say 10 carts for first prize! :D

We could make it over a weekend and any score you post needs to be streamed on twitch and all that good stuff but you get from midnight eastern time Sat to 6pm  Eastern sun. That gives everyone a good day and a half to play.

Anyone interested. Its just for fun anyway :D
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Re: Streaming Tournament for Everyone?
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2013, 02:23:57 AM »
This in turn is based on 80% of 900000. So my 768000 score would now get a handicap of 105600 points (132000 *.8) - I get to add this total to any score I post so a 900,000 score would be 1,005,600.

Congratulations on acquiring one of those modern handheld calculators that correctly subtracts a yellow smiling face wearing sunglasses from any positive integer.  Perhaps that could be offered as one of the available prizes.

Just teasing, Dan.  I've had a few unintentional smileys show up in the previews of my posts.  It's one of the reasons I always use the [Preview] button.

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Re: Streaming Tournament for Everyone?
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2013, 08:40:58 AM »
yeah sounds good, there does need to be some online hammer allowed DK comps for everyone to play in...

for one event anyway i think there should be a straight up 'DK Open', no handicaps - just take on the best and see who wins on the day!

this one may be too much of a bitch to organise but ill throw out the idea of a 'DK World Cup'...format would be just like the football world cup...groups drawn with seeded players and round robin matches, then quarters and semis etc...all head to head single game matches, this worked in the no hammer tourney and is a bit of a leveller as upsets are more likely in a one off game...

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Re: Streaming Tournament for Everyone?
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2013, 08:42:41 AM »
yeah sounds good, there does need to be some online hammer allowed DK comps for everyone to play in...

for one event anyway i think there should be a straight up 'DK Open', no handicaps - just take on the best and see who wins on the day!

this one may be too much of a bitch to organise but ill throw out the idea of a 'DK World Cup'...format would be just like the football world cup...groups drawn with seeded players and round robin matches, then quarters and semis etc...all head to head single game matches, this worked in the no hammer tourney and is a bit of a leveller as upsets are more likely in a one off game...

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This sounds like a great idea, and I'm a player with a current PB of 229,700.  DK Open/DK World Cup, call it what you want.  I'm in.

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Re: Streaming Tournament for Everyone?
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2013, 11:36:30 AM »
I think a DK World Cup sounds great. A bracketed, one game, head to head tournament would be a great viewing experience. You could pull up both streams and track them like a standard sporting event. Both players could start at the same time and view each others stream. Real time strategy could be employed based on how your opponent is doing. When I play I tend to pull up a stream and play that person and it add to the enjoyment of the game for me.  :) Unfortunately I don't think the same time thing could be pulled off.

One of the things I like about the WCRs that encourages participation is the multiple bounties and the ability to claim just one. It creates many goals in one tourney with each player able to tailor their game to go after the ones best suited to them. A special badge is just as cool as a $ prize for most of this.
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Re: Streaming Tournament for Everyone?
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2013, 12:11:21 PM »
Ok go back to here now from the other.

1. There are a lot of ideas on this. All are cool. I think to start just setup BOTH a handicap and straight-up scoring pools. This gives the "pros" a chance to win both settings but gives EVERYONE a real shot at winning versus being stuck at 28th place.

2. Some type of NCAA Bracket/World Cup style tourney would be awesome. Make it a a double elimination format could result in an interesting setup!

3. Perhaps some type of Team format? 2 people team up and you average their total scores per round? Basically a top 12 gets paired? Would be harder to logistic but could be interesting! :D
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Re: Streaming Tournament for Everyone?
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2013, 09:52:04 PM »
I like the idea of tourneys for everyone.

In fact, one thing I believe needs to happen from now on is that *everyone* who is not a current or former DK world champion or KO champion should have to re-qualify for each new KO by playing out a series of tournies, like the wildcards are gonna be doing.

So Steve Wiebe, Billy Mitchell, Hank, Tim Sczerby, Dean, and Jeff are locked in forever, but everyone else has to be active and put up a score to stay in. And if any of the lock-ins want to play in the tourneys, they can.

... I also think TG should sponsor these!
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Re: Streaming Tournament for Everyone?
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2013, 10:38:52 PM »
I'd love to have a tournament straight up no handicap. Best players to the worst, anyone who enjoys the game. Then see how everyone does. Maybe one of the big time players has a bad day and you beat their high score for the tournament. That would be a good confidence boost. Anything can happen and even the sun shines on a dogs butt somedays.
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Re: Streaming Tournament for Everyone?
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2013, 10:49:51 PM »
One thing about a no-handicap open is that it would basically have to be no-prize, purely for fun, otherwise you might as well just hand the money to Dean and Jeff.  :o
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Re: Streaming Tournament for Everyone?
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2013, 07:29:23 PM »
I totally agree and it is something that I wanted to do as well...be sure it will happen in the not too far away future :)

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