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Offline Monstabonza

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Crazy Kong High Score List Discussion
« on: November 11, 2013, 09:13:00 PM »
I have been thinking about this for a while and was going to do it before I
took over the DkJr list, But anyway if we are going to have a Crazy Kong High Sore List,
how are we going to do it? What rules are we going to have in place?
I have a few thoughts on this but am going to leave it up to
everybody to come up with the rules that should be in place.
To start the list I will combine Tg and Marp scores together,
I was also thinking about adding Retro Uprising and Aurcade scores aswell,
depending on what everyone else thinks.
OK so there it is, Discuss
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  Rank     Source     Score       Player         Date  Platform
1 MARP   685200Phil Tudos14/11/2011MAME
2 MARP TG 638700Ben Jos Walbeehm*08/12/2001MAME
3 RetroUprising   631700Tim Sczerby*17/05/2013MAME
4 MARP TG 624000Jeff Wolfe11/07/2000MAME
5 MARP   617100Estel Goffinet31/10/2013MAME
6 MARP TG 608900Chris Psaros17/03/2012MAME
7 Aurcade   608500Jimmy Linderman25/03/2010ARCADE
8 TG   605600Kane Mawhinney 24/04/2011MAME
9 TG   597900John Western 21/05/2009MAME
10 Aurcade   579700Justin Knucklez07/08/2010ARCADE
11 Aurcade   576800JJ Cahill08/07/2010ARCADE
12 TG   575900Robbie Lakeman 01/09/2012ARCADE
13 MARP   567200Jason Nugent17/10/2013MAME
14 Aurcade   566800Ben Falls20/03/2010ARCADE
15 MARP   566600Brian Allen11/11/2013MAME
16 MARP   559900John McNeill14/03/2013MAME
17 MARP   549300Alessandro.S21/09/2008MAME
18 TG   544900John Marks 08/06/2010ARCADE
19 Aurcade   511600F Ochs 11/06/2010ARCADE
20 Twitch   487700Shane Mosher31/8/2013MAME
21 MARP TG 470000Alex Weir28/07/2005MAME
22 TG   457300Vignola Renzo31/07/2005MAME
23 TG   452500Timothy Davidson 24/02/2009MAME
24 MARP   446000Arjen Gnodde12/04/2001MAME
25 MARP   434700Crash18/07/1998MAME
26 MARP   428800Rich Simonek10/08/2013MAME
27 TG   424500Gregory Erway 31/07/2005MAME
28 MARP   416800RJM24/03/2013MAME
29 MARP   414200TJT10/06/2005MAME
30 TG   393500Jonathan Dunne 31/07/2005MAME
31 MARP TG 382100Robert T Mruczek28/01/2007MAME
32 TG   353900Tommi Tiihonen 31/07/2005MAME
33 MARP   353700Aspie09/09/2004MAME
34 MARP   346300gastrainga21/03/2008MAME
35 RetroUprising   341300Kernzy24/03/2013MAME
36 MARP   340500Michael Schmitt17/05/2013MAME
37 TG   336300Didia Loen 12/02/2010MAME
38 TG   336000Adam Wilmot 06/10/2011MAME
39 TG   333700David Nelson 31/07/2005MAME
40 TG   320500Craig Dextradeur 17/04/2011MAME
41 MARP   307500NotMan14/11/2006MAME
42 TG   301500Robert Macauley 31/07/2005MAME
43 TG   300100Donald Hayes 31/07/2005MAME
44 MARP   299200Sampras@AIVA01/09/2000MAME
45 TG   292400Jason Micari 22/09/2012MAME
46 TG   290800Eric Akeson 05/06/2010ARCADE
47 TG   276300Wiebo de Wit 08/02/2005MAME
48 MARP   271700Tom Lindberg08/02/2005MAME
49 TG   260100Rodney Butler 08/02/2005MAME
50 TG   258200Riccardo Moretti 04/09/2006MAME
51 MARP TG 218300IUR Dhurin30/11/1999MAME
52 TG   213300Davilas Thanasis 08/02/2005MAME
53 MARP   192100Steve Krogman29/10/1998MAME
54 TG   187200Valter Treib 31/07/2005MAME
55 MARP   162800Ray Atkinson28/07/2002MAME
56 MARP   150100XXXSimmonsXXX17/01/2002MAME
57 TG   140000Rodrigo Lopes 30/09/2009MAME
58 TG   133300Steve Gumtow 04/06/2010ARCADE
59 MARP   125200Dith13/07/1998MAME
60 TG   123900William Grablauskas Jr. 08/02/2005MAME
61 TG   122600Matthew Green 01/07/2009MAME
62 TG   119200Chris Davis 04/01/2008MAME
63 TG   113200Ed Martin 23/07/2010MAME
64 TG   112000Louie Grubbs 31/07/2005MAME
65 RetroUprising   108000Jason Brittain 29/8/2013MAME
66 TG   104900Jordi Schouteren 22/07/2008MAME
67 RetroUprising   96200dre day2227/11/2009MAME
68 TG   91900Torsten Edelmann 08/02/2005MAME
69 TG   88100Sébastien Giraud 31/07/2005MAME
70 RetroUprising   85500902silverminer15/11/2010MAME
71 TG   85500Ken Konechny 08/02/2005MAME
72 TG   85400Marc Ahles 08/02/2005MAME
73 TG   83700Joe McDonald 04/09/2008MAME
74 RetroUprising   72800Nick Sheils11/02/2013MAME
75 TG   69500Andrew Mee 31/07/2005MAME
76 RetroUprising   62400Ecinc2xxx07/11/2009MAME
77 TG   58300Justin Skidmore 31/05/2011MAME
78 TG   57900Darrin Redick 08/02/2005MAME
79 TG   56800John DenHartog 08/02/2005MAME
80 TG   56600peter dennett 31/07/2005MAME
81 TG   55000ryan gavigan 31/07/2005MAME
82 MARP   54200Frankie16/05/2001MAME
83 TG   52900John Rhodes 31/07/2005MAME
84 MARP   49000Oldie17/06/1998MAME
85 TG   45900Mr. Kelly R. Flewin04/06/2010ARCADE
86 TG   44700Terri Hyder 30/04/2009MAME
87 TG   44200Ron Corcoran 08/02/2005MAME
88 TG   42500kenneth chappel 19/03/2009MAME
89 RetroUprising   41100QUICKJUMP13/07/2011MAME
90 RetroUprising   38900KingRyanSteenbergh12/7/2011MAME
91 MARP   33700Griphin17/02/2006MAME
92 MARP   33500FOXMULDER22/08/2007MAME
93 MARP   32100Robby515007/11/2001MAME
94 TG   28800Phil Younger 31/07/2005MAME
95 TG   24900Koos van Dyk 18/04/2011MAME
96 RetroUprising   19500gardok09/10/2013MAME
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Re: Crazy Kong High Score List Discussion
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2013, 10:46:55 PM »
I like your ideas for combining all the lists.

Though I'm not a CK player yet, I intend to be at some point in the future. I'd vote to allow for the floor-glitch skips.
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Re: Crazy Kong High Score List Discussion
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2013, 02:12:15 AM »
i think the floor skip glitch could be included, because i think the player takes a higher risk to do this glitch than he would take by playing "normaly".

also the "ladder glitch" should be allowed, even tho i'm not sure if it counts as a glitch anyway.

are there anymore glitches i forgot?

BTW. are we going to have only 1 list for CK in a particular version or also bootlegs and stuff?
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Re: Crazy Kong High Score List Discussion
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2013, 05:20:34 AM »
I think the list should be for the Crazy Kong Pt2 rom set. I also agree to allow the use of the warp glitch.
Does anyone have an idea of how many extra points the glitch would add overall?
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Re: Crazy Kong High Score List Discussion
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2013, 05:40:28 AM »
Warp glitch must be included, in my opinion.  Actually, it could mean a decrease in points, depending on how one is playing. (Running boards or point pressing).  It's a feature of the game, there's no reason not to include it.  The hammer drop on the pie factory should be included.  I agree with Estel, the Crazy Kong HSL should only include the Crazy Kong part 2 romset (ckong).  There can be other lists for other variations eventually, but ckong is the 'definitive' version, IMO.  I love the idea of combining all of the scores from the different scoreboards, although there should be some solid proof of the score.  .inp for MAME submissions seems fair to me, although with different versions of MAME, I'm not sure this would always be an option.  I'll let someone else weigh in.  Great thread!

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Re: Crazy Kong High Score List Discussion
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2013, 09:09:51 AM »
The warp glitch should be included just for the fact of using it with point pressing will achieve the highest score. If we ever get into tracking speed runs the warp will be the way to go. I think an (*) could be used to indicate scores done without the use of the warp or hammer drop.
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Re: Crazy Kong High Score List Discussion
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2013, 11:56:42 AM »
I was planing on doing tho for the crazy kong part 2 set.
I should have said that first. I am more than willing to do other clones but would like to get his list sorted first before I start on anything else.
Yeah I was thinking .inp to be supplied with mame submission, probably leave it to any wolf mame version just to keep the amount of mame versions in check. It will be advisable to stream all games although I understand this is not always possible.
And it's looking like we will allow all glitches to maximise the scoring potential of the game.
I can doa speed running list aswell if that what people want.
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Re: Crazy Kong High Score List Discussion
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2013, 10:05:28 PM »
Ok so Here is the list i have so far,
Feel free to pick it to pieces :)
  Rank     Source     Score       Player         Date  Platform
1 MARP   685200Phil Tudos14/11/2011MAME
2 MARP TG 638700Ben Jos Walbeehm08/12/2001MAME
3 RetroUprising   631700Tim Sczerby17/05/2013MAME
4 MARP TG 624000Jeff Wolfe11/07/2000MAME
5 MARP   617100Estel Goffinet31/10/2013MAME
6 MARP TG 608900Chris Psaros17/03/2012MAME
7 Aurcade   608500Jimmy Linderman25/03/2010ARCADE
8 TG   605600Kane Mawhinney 24/04/2011MAME
9 TG   597900John Western 21/05/2009MAME
10 Aurcade   579700Justin Knucklez07/08/2010ARCADE
11 Aurcade   576800JJ Cahill08/07/2010ARCADE
12 TG   575900Robbie Lakeman 01/09/2012ARCADE
13 MARP   567200Jason Nugent17/10/2013MAME
14 Aurcade   566800Ben Falls20/03/2010ARCADE
15 MARP   566600Brian Allen11/11/2013MAME
16 MARP   559900John McNeill14/03/2013MAME
17 MARP   549300Alessandro.S21/09/2008MAME
18 TG   544900John Marks 08/06/2010ARCADE
19 RetroUprising   524200CKF01/04/2013MAME
20 Aurcade   511600F Ochs 11/06/2010ARCADE
21 MARP TG 470000Alex Weir28/07/2005MAME
22 TG   457300Vignola Renzo31/07/2005MAME
23 TG   452500Timothy Davidson 24/02/2009MAME
24 MARP   446000Arjen Gnodde12/04/2001MAME
25 MARP   434700Crash18/07/1998MAME
26 MARP   428800Rich Simonek10/08/2013MAME
27 TG   424500Gregory Erway 31/07/2005MAME
28 MARP   416800RJM24/03/2013MAME
29 MARP   414200TJT10/06/2005MAME
30 TG   393500Jonathan Dunne 31/07/2005MAME
31 MARP TG 382100Robert T Mruczek28/01/2007MAME
32 TG   353900Tommi Tiihonen 31/07/2005MAME
33 MARP   353700Aspie09/09/2004MAME
34 MARP   346300gastrainga21/03/2008MAME
35 RetroUprising   341300Kernzy24/03/2013MAME
36 MARP   340500Michael Schmitt17/05/2013MAME
37 TG   336300Didia Loen 12/02/2010MAME
38 TG   336000Adam Wilmot 06/10/2011MAME
39 TG   333700David Nelson 31/07/2005MAME
40 TG   320500Craig Dextradeur 17/04/2011MAME
41 MARP   307500NotMan14/11/2006MAME
42 TG   301500Robert Macauley 31/07/2005MAME
43 TG   300100Donald Hayes 31/07/2005MAME
44 MARP   299200Sampras@AIVA01/09/2000MAME
45 TG   292400Jason Micari 22/09/2012MAME
46 TG   290800Eric Akeson 05/06/2010ARCADE
47 TG   276300Wiebo de Wit 08/02/2005MAME
48 MARP   271700Tom Lindberg08/02/2005MAME
49 TG   260100Rodney Butler 08/02/2005MAME
50 TG   258200Riccardo Moretti 04/09/2006MAME
51 MARP TG 218300IUR Dhurin30/11/1999MAME
52 TG   213300Davilas Thanasis 08/02/2005MAME
53 MARP   192100Steve Krogman29/10/1998MAME
54 MARP   187200TRB_MetroidTeam18/08/2005MAME
55 TG   187200Valter Treib 31/07/2005MAME
56 MARP   162800Ray Atkinson28/07/2002MAME
57 MARP   150100XXXSimmonsXXX17/01/2002MAME
58 TG   140000Rodrigo Lopes 30/09/2009MAME
59 TG   133300Steve Gumtow 04/06/2010ARCADE
60 MARP   125200Dith13/07/1998MAME
61 TG   123900William Grablauskas Jr. 08/02/2005MAME
62 TG   122600Matthew Green 01/07/2009MAME
63 TG   119200Chris Davis 04/01/2008MAME
64 RetroUprising   115800elrod2115/11/2010MAME
65 TG   113200Ed Martin 23/07/2010MAME
66 MARP   112500paul kearns 17/04/2013MAME
67 TG   112000Louie Grubbs 31/07/2005MAME
68 RetroUprising   108000Jason Brittain 29/8/2013MAME
69 TG   104900Jordi Schouteren 22/07/2008MAME
70 RetroUprising   96200dre day2227/11/2009MAME
71 TG   91900Torsten Edelmann 08/02/2005MAME
72 TG   88100Sébastien Giraud 31/07/2005MAME
73 RetroUprising   85500902silverminer15/11/2010MAME
74 TG   85500Ken Konechny 08/02/2005MAME
75 TG   85400Marc Ahles 08/02/2005MAME
76 TG   83700Joe McDonald 04/09/2008MAME
77 RetroUprising   72800Nick Sheils11/02/2013MAME
78 TG   69500Andrew Mee 31/07/2005MAME
79 RetroUprising   62400Ecinc2xxx07/11/2009MAME
80 TG   58300Justin Skidmore 31/05/2011MAME
81 TG   57900Darrin Redick 08/02/2005MAME
82 TG   56800John DenHartog 08/02/2005MAME
83 TG   56600peter dennett 31/07/2005MAME
84 TG   55000ryan gavigan 31/07/2005MAME
85 MARP   54200Frankie16/05/2001MAME
86 TG   52900John Rhodes 31/07/2005MAME
87 MARP   49000Oldie17/06/1998MAME
88 TG   45900Mr. Kelly R. Flewin04/06/2010ARCADE
89 TG   44700Terri Hyder 30/04/2009MAME
90 TG   44200Ron Corcoran 08/02/2005MAME
91 TG   42500kenneth chappel 19/03/2009MAME
92 RetroUprising   41100QUICKJUMP13/07/2011MAME
93 RetroUprising   38900KingRyanSteenbergh12/7/2011MAME
94 MARP   33700Griphin17/02/2006MAME
95 MARP   33500FOXMULDER22/08/2007MAME
96 MARP   32100Robby515007/11/2001MAME
97 TG   28800Phil Younger 31/07/2005MAME
98 TG   24900Koos van Dyk 18/04/2011MAME
99 RetroUprising   19500gardok09/10/2013MAME
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Re: Crazy Kong High Score List Discussion
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2013, 10:15:11 PM »
Awesome list so far. I hope to get on it eventually. A few observations:


1) Brian Allen just recently killscreened the game with a score of 566,600. November 11, 2013. That score is on MARP. So, that would move his #55 score up to #15, just behind Ben Falls.
2) I believe Ben Falls' game was a killscreen.
3) Should we suggest the real names of MARP players if they have chosen to use a nickname on that site? I'm not sure what the etiquette is in that case.
4) I will suggest a correction to the 1st place name: Phil Tudose  ;D


Great work. Keep it up!
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Re: Crazy Kong High Score List Discussion
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2013, 10:25:58 PM »
Ok 1,2 and 4 fixed.
As for 3 i'm not sure what the etiquette is for that.

And ill take a guess and say Everyone above Ben Falls Has got  killscreen but I couldn't say if there game was.
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Re: Crazy Kong High Score List Discussion
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2013, 10:33:29 PM »
My score date should be 7/11/00, those 2005 dates are when tg populated their DB
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Re: Crazy Kong High Score List Discussion
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2013, 10:37:08 PM »
Date Fixed

Was This A Kill Screen Game???
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Re: Crazy Kong High Score List Discussion
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2013, 10:40:02 PM »
My score date should be March 17th, 2012. The date you have there is when I (finally) uploaded the game to MARP. I don't know why I waited so long, but you can check the INP if you wanna verify that!

My game was a 22-1 kill screen (as per TG rules at the time).

Very, very interesting list! I didn't know about a lot of these scores.
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7/28/2013   Coin 35,947   903,700   22-1
8/16/2013   Coin 35,948   694,100   17-6
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Re: Crazy Kong High Score List Discussion
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2013, 10:43:30 PM »
And I see that you're going by dd/mm/yyyy. I support that.

I wish America would switch (like they should switch to the metric system), but you can't get Americans to do anything that makes sense.

(Note that Jeff phrased his as mm/dd/yyyy - should be July 11, 2000, ie, 11/07/2000 in your format)
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7/28/2013   Coin 35,947   903,700   22-1
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Re: Crazy Kong High Score List Discussion
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2013, 10:51:27 PM »
Something is wrong with a formula in my sheet at the moment with the dates, some players are showing the date for the player directly above them alphabetically,
As for the date format it is all I have ever known.
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