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Classic Arcade Game Discussion / Re: The problem with speedrunning
« Last post by TheSunshineFund on October 12, 2017, 08:13:34 AM »
I think it was ALTTP that had that one section where you have to look under stuff and your run could be over if you don't find it right away which is RNG based?
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Classic Arcade Game Discussion / Re: The problem with speedrunning
« Last post by WCopeland on October 12, 2017, 06:49:40 AM »
I strongly disagree.

Just like with arcade games, it depends on the game being run. The game I run has a lot of randomness that forces you to react in different ways based on the run. Some boss behaviors are completely RNG based, to the point that if you get poor RNG the run is over and it's not even your fault. Certain item drops must be coerced, but RNG may change when they drop and this impacts decisions that are made during the run which compounds randomness those decisions may pivot on.

You may only be looking at runs of games like Super Mario Bros., but if you look at some Zelda speedruns I think you'll find that a speedrun can have more than enough randomness to keep it interesting.
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Classic Arcade Game Discussion / Re: The problem with speedrunning
« Last post by homerwannabee on October 12, 2017, 05:35:55 AM »
I feel that most Arcade games have a much fairer balance of execution, and think for yourself play.


http://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/161423

Like I said, some Arcade/MAME games are 100% execution.  Domino man with the cheap exploit falls into that category.
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Classic Arcade Game Discussion / Re: The problem with speedrunning
« Last post by TheSunshineFund on October 12, 2017, 05:29:50 AM »
I feel that most Arcade games have a much fairer balance of execution, and think for yourself play.


http://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/161423
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Classic Arcade Game Discussion / The problem with speedrunning
« Last post by homerwannabee on October 12, 2017, 05:06:57 AM »
I just realized something about the speedrunning community.  First let me say, that I truly admire the dedication, talent, and skill that is on display with their community.  Many of their records are much, much harder to break than our Arcade/MAME game records.  The record times are truly an art form.
Having gotten that out of the way, I can focus on what I see as the major flaw.
It's all about execution.  The games they play are rather predictable.  The randomness usually doesn't have the player make difficult choices.
Basically it's all about execution of very hard moves.  To master these moves is amazing, but in the end it becomes monkey see monkey do type play.
Yeah, I get it in our own community we also have games that are 100% about execution.  And to be honest, execution is vital for a world record on almost any Arcade/MAME game.  Still, usually there are difficult choices that the player needs to make on the spot.  One wrong move, and it's instant death despite the great execution.
So in that way I feel that most Arcade games have a much fairer balance of execution, and think for yourself play.
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General Donkey Kong Discussion / Re: Chinese 60-1 ?? Or Nintendo switcher??
« Last post by Bigcat76 on October 11, 2017, 09:05:37 PM »
I was afraid of that... if one game is like that, could be more.. I would notice..thank you. That should have been my question. Has anyone played a 60-1 board... there’s only like 8 games I care about on it anyway.
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Classic Arcade Game Discussion / Re: Am I the only admitted loser Champion?
« Last post by homerwannabee on October 11, 2017, 04:52:53 PM »
Weird thread.  Kind of like it was said,

1.  Start thread bemoaning Loser status
2.  Someone intimates said poster is Loser (and even not really)
3.  Loser's Panties all twisted in a wad.

Am I missing something here, GRiley?
Again, it's not because of any thing to being a loser.  I would have obviously agreed to that.  It's being a one trick pony I had a problem with
You see I could hold the World records in Donkey Kong, Galaga, Galaxian, and Ms. Pac Man, and I would still consider myself a loser.
In real life I'm still a dude that desperately wanted to get married, have kids, and a 9 to 5 job.
Since I failed in my major life goals, I therefore am a loser in life.
Classic gaming is just a diversion to this.  In classic gaming, the fake world things are more in my control.  In this world I can pretend I am a winner.
So when someone attacks my fake world, it tics me off more than when someone attacks my real world.  I've given up hope for the real world, but in the fake world, I am building a castle full of scores that will take a very long time to complete.
Edit
I call classic high score gaming the fake world because it's of very little consequence to the world at large. 
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Classic Arcade Game Discussion / Re: Am I the only admitted loser Champion?
« Last post by krehztim on October 11, 2017, 04:20:41 PM »
Weird thread.  Kind of like it was said,

1.  Start thread bemoaning Loser status
2.  Someone intimates said poster is Loser (and even not really)
3.  Loser's Panties all twisted in a wad.

Am I missing something here, GRiley?
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Classic Arcade Game Discussion / Re: Am I the only admitted loser Champion?
« Last post by homerwannabee on October 11, 2017, 03:15:37 PM »
To be honest Robbie, I figured that you didn't have a lot of time on your hands.  I don't doubt the skill.  I just doubt the time you have.
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Yesterday, Eminem told his fans that they were with him or for Trump, and to those in between he told to blank themselves.
Well given that Eminem is known for being brash, obnoxious, disrespectful of others it's only natural to think that his followers voted, and support a politician with the same characteristics.  That being Donald Trump
So what I'm saying is Eminem committed career suicide.
So now with him being cold product with no one wanting him, Marshall Mathers has a lot of time on his hands.
So what did Slim Shady do when he took a long break from music last time?
He played a lot of Donkey Kong as reported by Rolling Stones magazine.
So it probably means he'll be pleased to stand up to his Steve Wiebe autographed DK machine.
So watch out top Donkey Kong players.  Marshall Mathers will be playing Donkey Kong again, and as we know, last time around he just about conquered it.  I mean he even said so!
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