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Offline Adam_Mon

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Re: Jeff Willms Leech revisited
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2017, 01:33:51 PM »
Ok I think I understand, is this what you are talking about? two versions,  300 points off one barrel and the other version is the modified leech that uses a second barrel for the third (and forth) hundo.

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Re: Jeff Willms Leech revisited
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2017, 01:41:54 PM »
soooooor siiiiiiick Kreygasm Kreygasm Kreygasm

Yep pretty much what I was talking about. Was thinking more on the lower girders but that works too, unfortunate if a wild comes

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Re: Jeff Willms Leech revisited
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2017, 01:49:11 PM »
Moderator Error!!!:

Crap... I (Mitchell) accidentally editted this post instead of creating a response. Gonna see if Jeff can restore it. Sorry!
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Re: Jeff Willms Leech revisited
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2017, 01:56:24 PM »
Holy goodness this makes me happy! Something new and exciting to add to the skill set!  Kreygasm
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Re: Jeff Willms Leech revisited
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2017, 02:13:51 PM »
Ahh ok I didn't know about the last 3 girder block thing.

This would be sick in a 1-1 run also combined with the wfli-rejump on the first girder. 15k anyone?

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Re: Jeff Willms Leech revisited
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2017, 06:07:56 AM »
Couldn't you do something like this in the Pie Factory?

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Re: Jeff Willms Leech revisited
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2017, 08:06:33 AM »
I'm also wondering what a best case, worst case, and avg case with this technique is in terms of a barrel board score. Could a 14k barrel be an avg case? If the barrel average of a game can be pushed to a little over 14k reliably with this technique then a score of 1.3 million is technically possible.

I've actually thought a lot about why this isnt used more in a game. I was playing a little on my Cab doing this one time and thought this move has a lot of potential. The risk seems to be a wild barrel on that backjump from the ladder could hit you can it not?

The rejump is 900 points for 4 barrels. If you leeched those 4 barrels properly its 800 points and if you do a rejump of one its 900 points. I think overall its possible if you leech the first pair and group the second now you are getting 1000 points for those 4 barrels. (That was my idea for a "strat" using this leech). Using it going up is a great idea too tho. Might be able to get another 500 points per board with minimal work and maybe even a 1000 doing double backjumps on top?
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Re: Jeff Willms Leech revisited
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2017, 10:35:33 AM »
Couldn't you do something like this in the Pie Factory?


The Willms leech? I can't see any way of implementing it, you could leech the pies but you will almost certainly lose points against the bonus timer.

You can leech the oil can on the pies though, it's dangerous but can be pulled off with enough practice. Because the timer ticks down so fast it only gives you maybe 1 or 2 extra thousand points if you survive (math guys will know more than I do)
I used a save state to show it. maybe this could be an ok idea on the early pies when the timer is slower and the fireballs cooperate?

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Re: Jeff Willms Leech revisited
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2017, 02:28:12 PM »
With enough practice it could possibly be a good technique. I certainly won't be pulling it off any time soon though.

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Re: Jeff Willms Leech revisited
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2017, 07:56:06 PM »

I didn't realize this before but given the posistion of the long/broken ladders I think that 300 point off one barrel move can only be pulled off on the 5th due to the gardikis jump only being possible on the last 3 girder block/ sections of any given girder

Not to burst anyone's bubble, but I'm pretty sure this has been known for a while now (by Eth, Phil, Jeff, myself, etc) due to messing around on 1-1 –it's just that it's not been taken to be all that viable for long games. The rejump at the ends of girders  is pretty viable (especially leeching twice from *below* at the end of any girder e.g. like in the bottom right corner). As for the long ladder leech, I think with simply two leeches it is much more viable on the 2nd girder, imho. At least that way you have a chance of grouping barrels tightly together first and there is no added risk of the wilds.
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