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Re: Advanced JRTFBDN Killscreen Barrel Strategy 101 - 30 minute guide
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2013, 07:35:44 AM »
just bumping this thread, hope some 300K-600k players watch this video and it helps them. Any thoughts on the video would be greatly apprieciated
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Re: Advanced JRTFBDN Killscreen Barrel Strategy 101 - 30 minute guide
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2013, 07:47:26 AM »
Watching right now, loving it so far!  8)

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Re: Advanced JRTFBDN Killscreen Barrel Strategy 101 - 30 minute guide
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2013, 08:05:49 AM »
Good stuff. I think the biggest issue is the difficulty of illustrating your examples "on-the-fly", especially the wild barrels. Flying through a bunch of save-state restarts can be confusing even for people who know exactly what you're talking about and know what visually to look for (in other words, me :P). I know this was sort of an impromptu thing you were doing for a couple of people but I think you did a good job and it's a useful video for JRTFBDN.
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Re: Advanced JRTFBDN Killscreen Barrel Strategy 101 - 30 minute guide
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2013, 05:59:32 PM »
I agree for sure Jeremy, it can be a little confusing... But I believe their is a lot more value showing the the situations develop in a real setting .. than loading up a save state and showing exactly when it happens. To me there is value in before the situation develops, and the way I showed it is basically how it unfolds in a real live setting.

Instead of loading up a predetermined save state that I know EXACTLY how to live through, I basically called the situation before it happened.. waited for it to happen.. then reacted to it live. To me that is much better than showing a 1 wild barrel save state 1 barrel into the save state.

I am also VERY confident this tutorial could be used effectively in a KS setting and greatly minimize deaths on barrels, if any.
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Re: Advanced JRTFBDN Killscreen Barrel Strategy 101 - 30 minute guide
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2014, 05:04:13 AM »
 Shane I'm new to this forum and would definitely want to watch this vid.  Is there any chance you could upload it to youtube?  I've tried playing it a few times and it only plays about 3 minutes.  Also I can't view it from twitch from my phone.  Thanks my barrel game is definitely needing the most practice.

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Re: Advanced JRTFBDN Killscreen Barrel Strategy 101 - 30 minute guide
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2014, 05:57:09 AM »
This is a really helpful video, helped me out no end on level 5 barrels.

Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Advanced JRTFBDN Killscreen Barrel Strategy 101 - 30 minute guide
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2014, 06:52:07 AM »
Unfortunately, this video was lost on Twitch and there was no backup which means it will need to be done again. I already spoke with Shane about it this last week. You can watch the barrel training videos that I made but you will have to watch to see what would be helpful to you as one running boards because it is more thorough and contains content that is more geared towards advanced players. Another way to do this is simply watch basic running the boards killscreen games. I apologize for the quality of these videos since they were among some of my earliest videos. I have since learned how to do such videos in better quality and more sound.

I have linked my training videos here. You will find some other videos that may be useful but I have yet to add a basic killscreen game section which I will do soon. http://wiki.donkeykonggenius.com/Getting_Started#Training_Videos

This was my first killscreen. Sorry no sound. Just watch the barrel boards and try to pick out little tricks that might be helpful. Then just practice the barrel board with save states until you are familiar with all the little variations that can occur.
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Re: Advanced JRTFBDN Killscreen Barrel Strategy 101 - 30 minute guide
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2014, 06:59:39 AM »
Hey Corey,

Is it possible to permanently save previous twitch recordings?

Thanks, Al
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Re: Advanced JRTFBDN Killscreen Barrel Strategy 101 - 30 minute guide
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2014, 08:11:51 AM »
Yes. I use OBS and have a setting checked that allows the program to save a local copy on my computer every time I stream. That way I always have a backup. Also, if you see a good twitch video out there you can always download it so that if it is ever lost on Twitch, you will have your own personal copy. http://www.twitchtools.com/video-download.php

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Re: Advanced JRTFBDN Killscreen Barrel Strategy 101 - 30 minute guide
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2014, 12:26:51 PM »
I wasn't successful with OBS, using Xsplit which seems to be ok for the time being. Thanks for the heads up with regard to Twitch tools

The video converter is pretty handy.
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Re: Advanced JRTFBDN Killscreen Barrel Strategy 101 - 30 minute guide
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2014, 01:06:23 PM »
OBS does not work on XP and other operating systems. But they are presently developing makes of it that will allow broader use. I hate xsplit with a passion.  <mad>

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Re: Advanced JRTFBDN Killscreen Barrel Strategy 101 - 30 minute guide
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2014, 04:29:06 PM »
  Thanks dk genius.  I'll be checking out your vids.  I'll thank you personally when I get my first kill screen ;D I appreciate all the help I've received from this forum so far

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Re: Advanced JRTFBDN Killscreen Barrel Strategy 101 - 30 minute guide
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2014, 05:48:17 PM »
Glad to help! :D Keep at it.

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Re: Advanced JRTFBDN Killscreen Barrel Strategy 101 - 30 minute guide
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2014, 05:36:37 AM »
Hi guys,

I spoke to Corey earlier on his Twitch channel. I found the original video Shane did with regard to the kill screen barrel strategy on my laptop yesterday. It's 840 MB's in size, Corey mentioned uploading the file to Dropbox so I registered and have uploaded the file so you guys who missed out can watch it.

Here is a link to the file

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dq5k1y3294949fg/Shane_NC%20-%20JRTFBDN%20Killscreen%20Barrel%20Strategy%20L%3D5%2B%20-%20Twitch2.avi?dl=0

Enjoy!

Cheers, Al

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